Permalink Reply by Maddie Vawser on July 4, 2012 at 11:38pm This is cool, although I would like it more if she were wearing pants, or a skirt.
I find there to be a bit too much unnecessary pantslessness going on with the ladies of Diesel.
Nice to see that she's wearing beige fishnets though :P
Permalink Reply by Blake "Maceo" Canham-Bennett on July 4, 2012 at 11:43pm I agree. It's not particularly warzone practical. Though I s'pose it's more of a pinup style rather than a realistic interpretation of what Cap' would look look were he a she.
Maddie Vawser said:
This is cool, although I would like it more if she were wearing pants, or a skirt.
I find there to be a bit too much unnecessary pantslessness going on with the ladies of Diesel.Nice to see that she's wearing beige fishnets though :P
Permalink Reply by Lady Katza on July 5, 2012 at 3:36am I will say, in her defense, the guys don't take many pictures of cosplay ladies in pants. Or if they are taking pictures of ladies wearing pants, its a cat suit, or some other "leave nothing to the imagination" sort of thing. I try to do modest dress as fits the time period and get completely ignored.
Permalink Reply by Maddie Vawser on July 5, 2012 at 4:39am I agree with you Katza, and that's something that has me a bit worked up as of late. Female costuming and cosplay has been downgraded to just being about sex appeal. Not everything has to be about showing off boobs and butts.
Permalink Reply by Larry on July 5, 2012 at 4:00pm Actually, Captain America was never war zone practical. His costume was a big bulls eye to the Germans. And in defense of this model, I think she was meant as more of a pin-up parody of Captain America.
On the Cosplay and costuming stuff: manga and anime I think carries a lot of the blame for the sex appeal emphasis. Of course, I'm sure Princess Leia in a brass bikini as well as the video game character Lara Croft didn't help any. And before all of that we had the artwork of Heavy Metal magazine and Frank Frazetta. Even they came after all of the pulp fiction art, which were all about "boobs and butts".
Sorry, ladies but cosplay and costuming tends to be sexist, whether that's right or wrong.
Permalink Reply by Lady Katza on July 5, 2012 at 8:31pm Larry, I totally see where you are coming from on that one. Its a cultural filter. My gripe is that if someone is going to complain about the obvious sexism and women dressing up that way then give those of us that aren't so blatant about it a little more air time.
Though, I'm probably preaching to the choir when I say this here. But the youngster boys listen to their older and wiser counterparts (I guess, I could be wrong), so why not help steer them. Appreciate the more modest of us without vilifying those that are comfortable showing off T and A. (I've certainly shown off enough T and A in my pre-child/marriage days)
Larry said:
Actually, Captain America was never war zone practical. His costume was a big bulls eye to the Germans. And in defense of this model, I think she was meant as more of a pin-up parody of Captain America.
On the Cosplay and costuming stuff: manga and anime I think carries a lot of the blame for the sex appeal emphasis. Of course, I'm sure Princess Leia in a brass bikini as well as the video game character Lara Croft didn't help any. And before all of that we had the artwork of Heavy Metal magazine and Frank Frazetta. Even they came after all of the pulp fiction art, which were all about "boobs and butts".
Sorry, ladies but cosplay and costuming tends to be sexist, whether that's right or wrong.
Permalink Reply by Maddie Vawser on July 5, 2012 at 9:28pm I don't mean to be waving all the feminist flags, I enjoy pin-ups and plenty of skimpy costumes, and this Femme Cap' is gorgeous; it is a really cute outfit and she totally rocks it.
I guess I just wish that, like you said Larry, anime & manga styles hadn't bled so far into the costuming environment that sexed up costumes have become not just accepted, but perhaps expected from women.
Permalink Reply by Larry on July 6, 2012 at 12:02am Everyone makes good points. Lady Katsa, post the photos. I seem to recall lot's of positive comments when women members have posted here in the past. This site is a lot more sophisticated than most.
The problem with Cosplays is that the nature of the conventions are mostly early teens to mid 20 somethings. And we know that the boys aren't looking at the quality of the costumes most of the time when it comes to the women. Unfortunately, I doubt that's going to change.
Permalink Reply by Lady Katza on July 6, 2012 at 12:15am Larry, you are right on the age/reasoning. Sometime soon I'm gonna start yelling at kids to get off my lawn! LOL According to my husband I'm still the sexiest woman in the world. I think he's biased or something. And I know all ya'll here are more sophisticated. I keep up even though I don't post much anymore.
In any case, I do not have any NEW photos, but I will come Dragon*Con. I'm working on a modernized 30's silhouette for a Red Carpet event gown. Accessories will include my great-grandmother's wind-up watch. :D I do have some cute photos of my daughter in a 30's style romper and I'm making both my son and daughter retro outfits for our summer beach trip.
Permalink Reply by T. von Kramer on July 22, 2012 at 3:25am Sorry for being so late to the discussion, guys; I've been working a lot, lately. I'd like to say, though, that I actually see way less sexism, at least on this website, than most other genres. I believe that everyone I've ever seen on this site honestly has a great appreciation for anything done toward upholding this subculture. In the event that it happens to be skimpy, yes, it will definitely get noticed. However, any good work or photo on one of our discussion boards will receive plenty of praise, no matter how many layers of wool you might have on. I definitely see the point that you're making but I'm glad to say that I see it to a much lesser degree here.
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