Dieselpunk + Steampunk Culture

It's rather difficult to define time borders of steam- and dieselpunk. I think that the demarcation line between them is the First World War - the war that really ended XIX century, ruined great empires and completely changed the face of Europe. And what can you name border between them?

Ah, i forget. Photo.

It is british Mk.V tank in front of Flatiron building.


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Comment by Larry on August 11, 2010 at 7:58pm
Павел Скрыльников, there's always a period as eras transition so, in my opinion, there's not a hard line when one crosses from steampunk era and dieselpunk. That being said I think you're right that WWI is the defining moment that separate the two. To borrow a phase from the war WWI could be considered a "No Man's Land" between the two eras.
Comment by lord_k on August 11, 2010 at 4:37am
"There's a thin line..."
Of course we can find a lot of Dieselpunk seeds in the Edwardian era and even earlier.
Diesel engine? 1890's.
Wireless communications? Early 1900's. The same with zeppelins.
Multi-engine airplanes? Flew as early as in 1913.
Tanks? September 1916, the Battle of the Somme.
Some of those who died before the Armistice (Graf Zeppelin, Sant'Elia) or soon after (Teddy Roosevelt, Egon Schiele) can be easily presented as Dieselpunk icons.
But we need something else. A new society that makes the difference.
Speaking of everything Edwardian, maybe we (I mean Cap'n Tony and my humble self) should start a new series here - The Transition. Things, people and events that are definitely not Victorian but do not belong to Dieselpunk. "Knights of the Air", started by Tome, is a sign.
Comment by Cap'n Tony on August 10, 2010 at 9:09pm
I keep trying (without sucess) to define the 1901-1918 era as something distinct, but I'm in the minority. Yea, WWI is the classic demarcation point.
Comment by Gugs on August 10, 2010 at 3:27pm
I think the border is somewhere in 1915-16 where the trench warfare kicked in. I think the Deisel era goes like this
You have your late steampunk from 1901-1915, Early Desilpunk with two divisons (the war 1915-1923 and the Twenties 1923-1929) then you have your deiselpunk proper with (the depresion 1929-1939 and the war 1939-1945) then you go into the Atomic age
Comment by lord_k on August 10, 2010 at 8:19am
11.11.1918 is the border line.

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