Dieselpunk + Steampunk Culture

Dieselpunks called for help, and you were listening!

Dieselpunks called for help, and you were listening!

In less than half a day, we were able to raise our goal of $3,500!

Just so we're transparent about where the funds are going:

5% to Kickstarter
3-5% to Amazon
20-25% to Uncle Sam for taxes
$50 for postcards/shipping
25 Dieselpunk books [($20.33 * 25) + ($10 shipping * 25)] = ~$758.25
Shipping for 5 copies of Diesel City (already in stock) = ~$50
2015 renewal for domain names = $34.51
Hosting = $599.90
Music licenses & fees = $1,100

As you can see, most of the overhead is going towards the fundraiser itself!  The other huge chunk is the hosting and music licenses.

So, what are our options?

I would love to move our music to a major platform like Live365.  This way, we could open it up to more devices and gain better negotiation pricing with the music labels.  What are your thoughts on this?

As for our website hosting, we're stuck here unless I manually cut and paste all of the articles/videos/photos onto another website system.  Even then, our forums would be lost (but most definitely upgraded in the process).

As the community, what do you want?  What does this website do really well?  What's the worst part about Dieselpunks?  Are we missing something really important?

The ideas so far:

  1. A radio station with timed delivery of content, like "The Shadow" at midnight, and a long uninterrupted stretch of big band music on Sunday mornings.
  2. A "Dieselpunk 101" area for use by the press and for newbies.
  3. Post more music videos.
  4. Create a better organization structure to differentiate between the historical, the nostalgic, and the punk.
  5. Develop a new regular series based on inventors (old & new).
  6. User customization for news and/or Subscription-based news feed based on a "friends" list.
  7. A clear system of determining user "level" to know at a glance who contributes to the site.

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Comment by Tome Wilson on September 23, 2014 at 8:41am

Good news, everyone!

KickStarter likes what we're doing and has featured us as one of their "Staff Picks!"

Dieselpunks will not fall.

Comment by Tome Wilson on September 21, 2014 at 8:14pm
The music player is actually the most popular part of the site behind the art history articles.

As for waiting for someone else, that's not in my nature. If I can do it, I will, even if it's a pain in the ass. Probably why I started going grey when I was 16.
Comment by Erwin "Blacky" Blackthorn on September 21, 2014 at 5:08pm
Far too much trouble in my opinion. That's work for an entire company. I say just wait until Dieselpunk is big enough for one to do that. I think the best thing to do is ask the community what is useful and what is going to waste. The radio is one of the main ones. If anyone else is like me, then they just play music from their Ipod, so the announcement option is the better, more time efficent, choice that'll give you less grey hairs.
Comment by Tome Wilson on September 21, 2014 at 3:49pm

I find the music by word of mouth, press releases, and news streams.  At the moment, I'm a part of about 45 different groups that each revolve around different styles that would interest dieselpunks; hot jazz, dixieland, jitterbug, big band, electroswing, swing revival, etc.  There's also band websites, Soundcloud, Live365, Pandora, ShoutCast, YouTube, and other avenues.  It's literally all I do with my ears during the day unless I'm in a meeting.

If an interesting tune comes up, I track down the artist and see if they're independent.  If they're not, then I check to see if they're a part of the big four.  If they are, then the money I pay to the big four covers the three different licenses I need to broadcast from Dieselpunks.org

Still awake?  Good!

Then I have to follow really Byzantine guidelines about how many times an artist shows up in a playlist, how many "listens" it gets during the month, what country those "listens" are from, etc. and then I report that back to the big four (who each have their own systems of tracking and reporting).

If the artist is still indy, then I just send them a nice email and ask if I can add their tune to the playlist in return for XYZ.  XYZ being whatever I can afford to pay or trade at the time.

That covers about half of it.  The other half is just details stacked on details regarding bitrate, time-of-play, and other bureaucracy that I don't wish upon any sane person.

Comment by Erwin "Blacky" Blackthorn on September 21, 2014 at 2:18pm
Good thing nobody listens to them haha Well how exactly do you find the music? Do they tell you and use the site as a platform?
Comment by Tome Wilson on September 21, 2014 at 9:00am
They don't pay the artists, so I'm just waiting to hear about a law suit.
Comment by Erwin "Blacky" Blackthorn on September 21, 2014 at 1:42am
That's true... don't listen to me lol I wonder how the Dieselpunk radio makes their playlists. Maybe you should do something like they do.
Comment by Tome Wilson on September 20, 2014 at 8:49pm

My plan would be for something you could play in your car, or on your way to work/school, which YouTube really isn't suited for.

Also, as fewer and fewer bands focus their money on music videos as advertising streams, we'll still need a radio alternative to keep everyone up to date.

Comment by Erwin "Blacky" Blackthorn on September 20, 2014 at 8:15pm
Good luck, Tome. I personally don't mind if the music aspect doesn't go well. We still have the music discussions to inform people of new bands and songs. And most of the new Diesel music that I know about is from the youtube videos you post up.
Comment by Tome Wilson on September 20, 2014 at 7:59pm

UPDATE:  The Live365 trial went poorly.  Not only are their tools from 1999, but their prices are astronomical if I want to post the radio station here at Dieselpunks.org instead of on their website.

Scott from Dieselpunk Industries has turned me onto another broadcasting service that I'm currently vetting.  It might be a winner.  Stay tuned for more details.

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